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Poster: agstwst33 Date: Feb 24, 2010 5:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: an apology and a question...

i first would like to say the statement i made in the forum a few days ago saying that"Jerry deserves our respect,"was only my opinion.I sincerly did not mean to upset fellow heads and friends of the band.I truly care for the band Jerry and do not like reading negative comments and reviews from people who never "really" heard the magic.so i`m sorry if that statement made you upset....furthermore,some of the responses to the statement got me wandering about what people think of the Grateful Dead in the late 80s and 90s.Which begs the question,"WHAT WOULD BE YOUR FAVORITE SHOW FROM THE 80s and/or 90s?"....again,i`m sorry for expressing my opinion that obviously didnt sit well with fellow forum users,.....your friend agstwst33.

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Feb 26, 2010 5:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

"agstwst33:" I hope you are doing well. I can't read all the posts so this may be a repeat. "Something" happened at the Lake Placid show on Oct. 17, 1983 --- I don't know if any of the recordings capture the essence of the evening, but you'll notice that Jerry played all the songs from his first album [except for "Loser"]. The place was dripping in gold the entire evening.

We will survive....[?],
--- AshesRising

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 24, 2010 7:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

As elb notes, no need for apologies...however, to clarify, what I took offense at was nothing at all along the lines of you having the opinion that someone may or may not deserve nothing but respect. It was the over the top expression you used as if the folks here that make negative comments do ONLY that...I for one have commented on his degradation, loss of vocal ability, etc.; but, in no way would I be characterzied as one that does this half the time, most of the time, etc., since by and large I spend my time here chatting with folks, and singing the praises of 65-71. Sure, I can't help you with the 80s and 90s cause they suck, but I don't say that often...just implied.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Feb 24, 2010 8:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

I won't apologize for the Makers' Mark typing of my rant back at you, but take this link as a peace offering - I've found it a good place to poke around:

http://www.themusicarchive.com/garcia/dead-1h.htm

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 25, 2010 6:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

Maker's Mark?

Great, now I'm thirsty.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Feb 25, 2010 8:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

Step on up and pour yourself a nice, tasty single malt instead.

Rob's buying.

MM is not bad. For a bourbon.

But by far and away the best thing about bourbons is emptying the barrel they came in, sending the barrel to Scotland and finishing a nice 12 year Islay or 18 year Speyside vatting in it.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Feb 25, 2010 10:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

My senses are in full agreement; my wallet is not.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 25, 2010 5:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

I agree fully with Tell. Just because I occasionally have said that Jerry at times sounds like "an aged toad gargling carpet tacks" in no way means I have never heard the "magic". Far from it, I am just expressing an opinion. Jerry is not God. He could and often did make mistakes. That, of course, as always, is merely my opinion. No one has to agree with it, but to say that those who will sometimes criticize the man don't "get" him seems a little silly to me.
Onward and upward.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 25, 2010 6:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

I will note with some irony, however, that having agreed with me, my mere opinion becomes oh so much more; why, a well-supported thesis mayhaps? A hypothesis ("an" for Rob et al.?), nay--theory...Next week I am angling for Paradigm status, but I have to get HighFlow to agree with me on something besides his ass-kicking on the bball court.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 25, 2010 6:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

I wish you well in your pursuit of becoming one worthy of being considered a Paradigm. Me? I'm good with Quandary.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 25, 2010 6:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

"Quandary" = "quart + dairy" (Dire will love the roots of this excellent term--derived from the obvious "four" nozzled milk conveyance structure in association with Bessie's abode).

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Feb 25, 2010 7:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

i KNEW i heard my ears ringing

(this thread was ripe for a hijack)

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 25, 2010 7:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

Oh, that ringing is Bessie's cowbell. I realize some folks prefer it when they leave it on.

The phrase "More Cowbell" means more to some than others.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Feb 25, 2010 7:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

no wonder that ringing was causing a tantalizing stirring in my loins. oh Bessie, what would i do without you in my life

:)

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Feb 25, 2010 8:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...got milk?


Thinking of you!

http://tinyurl.com/yhkf58b

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Feb 25, 2010 8:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...got milk?

lmao!!

very attractive cow though, and quite the worker....

"The cow produced an average of 23 gallons of milk every single day for an entire year. The average cow produces just seven gallons a day. But the milk from My 1326 doesn't stay milk, it is made into cheese. She produced enough milk to make 7,217 pounds of cheeses. That's enough for 115,472 cheeseburgers."

she will be in my heart when i have a couple of slices of gouda at lunch.

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Feb 25, 2010 8:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...got milk?


Knew you would appreciate that one!

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 25, 2010 6:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

Now this is a hijack I can get behind.


Easy Dire, not like that.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Feb 24, 2010 6:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

no need to apologize, we all have opinions.

3-29-90 - a great show from any era. Branford's presence was inspiring and he seemed to fit in like he had been in the band for 10 years. I believe Mando mentioned the opening notes of Bird Song recently.

9-18-87 - maybe the only show that gets stronger after space.

(sorry for not posting links)

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Feb 25, 2010 8:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

tough to narrow one. Not saying it;s the best or my fav bit Alligator Alley from 1980 is awesome

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Poster: Single Malt Date: Feb 25, 2010 4:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1987-07-02.beyer.connor.tetzeli.fix-22057.35441.reflac.flac16

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Poster: buscameby Date: Feb 25, 2010 8:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

My 4 fav shows from 80/90's

6-16-85 Greek, 9-7-85 Red Rocks, 12-12-90 MacNichols Denver, 5-31-92 Las Vegas.

Not 69 or 70 hot but fine fine face peelin experience.

And I love and loved Jerry with all my heart but he was a mess like many of us were and maybe are still-lol. Its called being human, doesn't necessarily make him a BAD person.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Feb 25, 2010 7:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: "Leave Jerry alone. Leave him aloonnne!!!!"

This one will destroy some office furniture for ya:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1981-03-09.mtx.seamons.101168.sbeok.flac16

My two cents:
Of course Jerry deserves our respect, but conversations range far and wide on this board, and often acknowledge the insanity of his drug and health issues, and how those things affected his music. It is possible to love and idolize - and even respect - a person without ignoring their problems. Ask anyone who has ever been married.

We all have a lot more fun here when we stick to sharing about the music. And you should already know that any attempt to "correct" someone else's thinking is never gonna fly with a bunch of Deadheads. To a man, we are ornery iconoclasts. Welcome aboard.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 25, 2010 7:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Leave Jerry alone. Leave him aloonnne!!!!'

The China>Rider transition jam from that one is ridiculous. Just plain ridiculous (in a good way, of course).

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Feb 25, 2010 7:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Leave Jerry alone. Leave him aloonnne!!!!'

i agree with your two cents fenario. and i have great respect for jerry as a musician and guitarist even though many times he plays as sloppy as a highschool garage band guitarist. as much as I love Jerry, some days he couldnt hit the side of a barn with the correct note :)

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Feb 24, 2010 8:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

Once again you stick your foot in your mouth implying that if someone is critical of the band they never heard the "magic" and thus don't get it like a true deadhead such as yourself.I will waste no more of my time other than telling you that you are a genuine asshole.

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Poster: agstwst33 Date: Feb 24, 2010 8:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

excuse me for the way i choose to interpret the sounds that i heard the band play!My apology was for a statement that i made that i realized could be taken in a way that readers could find "in a way" offensive.But i will not apoligize,take back or say in any other form,the way i describe what the Grateful Dead did for 35 long years.and thats perform music,that in my ears was magic!..so for ungrateful saps such as yourself,you obviously have some sort of underlying issue with something that makes you such an ass,and causes you to read things and interpret them in a way that they were never intended to be....i really dont understand what the hell you "reading into"when you read my post....but you went to far when you decided to start with the name calling;to say i`m the "asshole"for describing their music as "magic",you most definetly have issues man!....issues that only you and your mommy can work out!

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Feb 24, 2010 9:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

May I point out that I agree but it was only 30 years....

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Feb 24, 2010 10:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

I suppose calling me "ungrateful scum" does not qualify as name calling.Your opinions had nothing to do with me calling you an asshole,they were juvenile and not worthy of rebuttal.What makes you an asshole is an obvious lack of intelligence.

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Poster: agstwst33 Date: Feb 24, 2010 11:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

you need to grow up!your comments are usless as is your existence in this forum.somebody has obviously pissed you off and you`ve chosen this forum to express your idiotic anger!...so instead of showing us your overwhelming lack of ability to get along with others,kindness and flat out knowledge;you should take your head out of your ass,come down off your high-horse and kiss my ass!...for your information,me expressing an opinion of what i believe the music sounded like to me,is just that.an opinion!...it has nothing to do with my knowledge of the Grateful Dead,which is,to say the least,a wealth of info,that you only wish you the balls to experience!...so how dare you question my knowledge,before you start calling people out,you had best grow a pair son,because i will not stand for your childish shit!

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Feb 25, 2010 2:14am
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((((((((GROUP HUG))))))))))

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Feb 25, 2010 2:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

((((((((GROUP HUG))))))))))

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Poster: TOOTMO Date: Feb 25, 2010 3:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

Geez... I step out for some BBQ ribs and this is what happens: people arguing about whether the other one "gets it"; people lending creedence to Tell's sun-baked ramblings. Ima gonna need another slab!

&()$# (The Forumite Formerly Known as TOOTMO)

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Feb 25, 2010 3:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: an apology and a question...

BBQ Ribs?!?!?! DAMN, I'm hungry!!!


(i am quite jealous)